CHRISTOPH BANGERT: ‘Nobody is trying to get rich here’

by gert

German photographer CHRISTOPH BANGERT is part of a new generation of photojournalists that came of age post-9/11 and well into the internet era. “The difference with former generations is perhaps that we take a broader view. We know that it is not enough to have good pictures; you have to be good at communicating too.”

Tal Afar, Iraq. © Christoph Bangert

Bangert, 32, is from a small town in Germany. He launched his career as a photojournalist in 2003 after studying for a year at the International Photography Center in New York City. Less than two years later he was covering Iraq for The New York Times, which led to the publication of a book, ‘Iraq: The Space Between.’ Bangert is also a semi-professional race driver and has recently returned from a 14-month overland journey with his Land Rover across Africa.

How do things look for someone who has never know the so-called good times?

“It was never easy. When I started working as a photographer in 2003 there already was a lot of negativism. Our teachers at the ICP were already saying how there were no jobs in photojournalism and we should perhaps forget about the whole photography business. It was the beginning of the internet revolution. Everybody was moving online and many photographers were still stuck in the black-and-white dark room.”


These days you have to part photojournalist, part computer nerd?

“Not a nerd exactly, but yes, in the sense that you have to be good at communicating. The difference with former generations is perhaps that we take a broader view. We know that it is not enough just to take pictures. It is both. You have to have extraordinary pictures and on top of that you have to be good at communicating.”


How has the crisis in the media affected your ability to work?

“There is less work for everybody so there is less work for me too. If you compare it to five years ago the effect has been tremendous. Magazines and newspapers just don’t have the budgets they used to have. So they’re getting the material from other sources than from freelance journalists. They take their images from the wire services that they have all-inclusive package deals with so they wouldn’t have to pay extra. It’s understandable why they are doing this, but it is a disaster for people like me.

“And of course the quality suffers. Wire photographers are photographers too but they’re not authors. They produce faster; they produce more. It’s single-image driven. It’s a very different thing from what we do. If you want to do quality journalism that has some point of view and authorship the wire services are not the place to go.”


Has it meant that you weren’t able to do certain projects?

“Well, I was planning to go back to Afghanistan. You would expect that the war in Afghanistan would be an easy sell but that’s not the case at all. It turned out nobody was willing to give me a guarantee or put me on assignment, so I ended up going on my own, paying my own expenses.

“Afterwards you still manage to sell the pictures. It’s not as good as getting an assignment but as long as you can still get the pictures and get them out there everything is fine. Nobody is trying to get rich here. Everybody knows there is no money in this business. It’s about producing. And if you don’t produce you’re finished.”


US withdrawal from Korengal, Afghanistan.
© Christoph Bangert

So basically the media now expect you to make it out there on your own ticket and they’ll look at your pictures afterwards?

“Yes. It’s cheaper that way. But I don’t care as long as I still get to go.”


When Times photographer João Silva lost both his legs in Afghanistan in October it underlined once more the danger of this kind of reporting. Are you insured when you go into a war zone?

“I’m insured when I am put on assignment but even then it depends on the client. The New York Times always take out insurance when they put you on assignment, and it’s a very good insurance, but other clients do not. The bigger publications are more likely to offer insurance. When you go without an assignment you’re on your own.

“I have a small daughter so I also have my own insurance, which is very expensive. Most of my colleagues have no insurance at all. If you are making little money and you’re paying your own way, it’s very tempting to look at that insurance fee and say, do I really need this?”


What do you expect from Emphas.is?

“I think it’s going to be very interesting on many levels. One is that I will be able to communicate directly with my audience. They will not just be looking at my pictures but actually contribute to producing them. This is something completely new and different. Working for a publication is one-way: you produce the pictures; they get published. Maybe you get some kind of feedback, or maybe not. But here it goes back and forth and that’s fantastic.

“The second thing of course is that you actually find the funding for your project, which is huge.”


Do you think people will be willing to pay for something like this?

“I’m an optimist otherwise I couldn’t survive as a photographer. I have some experience in communicating directly with the audience. I have a huge email list and I regularly send out information about upcoming exhibitions or books and such. Or when I’m looking to fund a project I will also send an email out to all my clients and people who’ve been following my work. But it’s all very small-scale. Emphas.is will channel this, expand on it and give it more structure.”


What kind of incentives would you offer your backers on Emphas.is?

“I think the main idea must be to take your backers on this journey, to really make them participate in the whole trip. You can write about what you’re doing, who you’ve been meeting with. You can put your pictures online and maybe do some short videos. All together I think this should produce something quite interesting. If people get all that for a minimum contribution of $10 I think that’s quite a lot and that will be the main incentive.

“On top of that you can do things like send postcards from Afghanistan to your backers or offer people books or prints. For significant donors lectures could also be an option.

“On the distribution end, apart from publishing in magazines and newspapers, I’m interested in doing public exhibitions. I’m not so much into the art gallery scene because the audience is so small. The problem is that public exhibitions are very expensive to do because they take up the place of advertising space. But perhaps slideshow projections in public places at night could be a good idea.”


Your first pitch on Emphas.is is not a specific story, rather you are asking people to support your continued documentation of the war in Afghanistan.

“Yes, I want to go back to Afghanistan, and in particular to Kandahar province, because I think what happens there will be decisive for this war. So I’m not pitching a detailed project about following around this soldier called Joe. I want to document the war in Afghanistan.

“That may seem a bit broad, but I see it in the vein of what Phillip Jones Griffiths did with ‘Vietnam Inc.’ I don’t want to make it about one soldier; I want to do something big about the whole conflict. It will be mostly embeds in Kandahar because it’s almost impossible now to do otherwise in that area, if only because the risk to your Afghan driver and translator is just too great. But I will be doing unembedded stuff in other areas like Kabul and Mazar-i-Sharif.

“Maybe people won’t go for a broad, big-scale project like that; maybe you have to make it really specific and personal. I don’t know. We will have to see.”


(Interview by Gert Van Langendonck)

Christoph Bangert’s website is christophbangert.com.

See a slideshow of his Afghanistan work for The New York Times here.

This is part V in a series of interviews with photojournalists about how the crisis has affected their work and what they expect from Emphas.is.

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2 COMMENTS

Tim Matsui says: | Posted on 01/5,/11

I’ve enjoyed the style of Christoph’s work and appreciate the broad aspect of the pitch. Looking forward to what is produced, and hats of to hanging in there and continuing to shoot and adapting to the market and technologies at our disposal!

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Anonymous says: | Posted on 01/7,/11

Always been a fan of Christophs work and his approach, also am excited and supportive of initiatives such as emphasis etc. But wanted to put some common misconceptions right in his piece: I went to ICP too, though almost 15 years before christoph and it may be helpful for yr readers and him to know that the tutors said the same thing then about futility of jobs and the passing if a “golden era” of working as a photojournalist. I think its unhelpful and ultimately self destructive to feel that photojournalists today have an exceptional experience of this, its different there is less if the same work but more of other forms than before. nThe same applies to technology and his belief that somehow photographers have to learn a new role of communication. It’s always been the way, perhaps we didn’t have email and web links to send clients but photographers spent a lot of effort meeting people, presenting ideas and building relations just as today.nnThe methods may have shifted but the fundamentals of what a photojournalist does, why he or she does it, who its for and how to achieve it are as rooted today in the principles christoph eludes to as they always have been.nnFurthermore his appreciation for wire photographers is misguided, of course they are authors, that is at the heart if their accountability as journalists and I think the distinction he makes exposes a different aim or belief that many have today that tells them the only good work is by people who are named, celebrated and famous.nnIn short whilst I adore Christophs approach to photography and emphasis’ fresh contribution to making more of it happen I fear that in missing some of the most valuable principles if what it is ohotojiurnalists are about will just serve to marginalized the effect and narrow the communication of good stories to a small fan group of hard-done-by photographers who feel the world owes them more. No doubt it does but this is not the way to communicate that to the people you really need behind you.

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